The problem of the Bashkir language in schools in Bashkiria. Prosecutor's Office of Bashkortostan: “Teaching the Bashkir language contrary to the consent of parents is not allowed
Statement by Vladimir Putin onthe inadmissibility of forced learning of non-native languages at school, made by the presidentat a meeting of the Council on Interethnic Relations in Yoshkar-Ola, caused a rather heterogeneous reaction from the public.
Let us recall that in our republic, as in some other national regions countries, the question of studying native language in schools it is quite acute.
Mediacorset decided to interview a number of experts about what Putin’s words really mean and what actions should be expected from regional authorities in this regard.
"Policy for the liquidation of national republics"
In particular, Vladimir Putin stated that “each territory has its own characteristics of interethnic relations, and, of course, they need to be taken into account, while ensuring uniform approaches to solving the problems of the national policy of the state as a whole.”
I would like to remind you, dear friends, that the Russian language for us is the state language, the language interethnic communication, and nothing can replace it; it is the natural spiritual framework of our entire multinational country. Everyone should know him. The languages of the peoples of Russia are also an integral part of the original culture of the peoples of Russia. Learning these languages is a right guaranteed by the Constitution, a voluntary right. Forcing a person to learn a language that is not his native language is just as unacceptable as reducing the level and time of teaching Russian. I would like to draw the special attention of regional heads to this. Russian Federation, - Vladimir Putin emphasized, - quotes Putin’s words kremlin.ru.
Political scientist, senior researcher at the Center for Comparative Historical and Political Research at Perm State National Research UniversityStanislav Shkel reports that, in short, two main points should be taken from Putin’s speech:
Firstly, ethnocentrists will have to change their rhetoric and refer less to the Russian President, which objectively weakens them. Secondly, the heads of the regions received a clear signal about resolving issues in language policy in favor of abandoning the compulsory study of languages other than Russian as not only the state language, but also the language of interethnic communication,” Shkel said in an interview with our correspondent.
Social activist Azamat Galinsays that Putin’s statement yesterday is quite serious and baffles active supporters of the study Bashkir language in schools.
Now regional authorities need to intelligently figure out what to do about this. I can’t imagine how supporters of the same “Congress of the Bashkir People”, who support Putin’s policies, but at the same time advocate compulsory study language in schools. In general, this is a fairly serious trend and a kind of logical result of the last ten years. The policy is aimed at changing administrative boundaries and the formation of new territorial administrative units - regions that will no longer be national, said Azamat Galin.
Executive Director of the Congress of the Bashkir People, sociologistIlgiz Sultanmuratovcommented on Vladimir Putin’s statement:
I completely agree with the president’s words: “I have said more than once that everything related to national identity and traditions is a delicate and very sensitive area, and one should act here extremely delicately and wisely.”Regarding the Russian language, I also support “It cannot be replaced by anything: it is the natural spiritual framework of our multinational country.”
But Putin also said that at the same time, national languages are also an integral part of Russian culture. That is, it is impossible to divide or solve the problems of teaching the Russian language at the expense of other national ones. And our Ministry of Education should be more responsible, because... many years of lack of development important issues Teaching languages on their part causes an increase in social tension in this area, says Sultanmuratov.
Apparently, this question has finally reached the highest circles. The Ministry of Education of the Republic of Belarus, I think, was quite indifferent to our questions regarding the study of the Bashkir language in schools. Why not spend more hours studying mathematics, for example? Bashkirs live not only in Bashkiria. Let him be taught in Chelyabinsk region, Tatarstan. I am for the language to be studied as part of the subject “Culture and History of Bashkortostan.” And now the issue is being escalated; all these discussions only contribute to interethnic disputes. I would advise regional authorities to simply go to universities and ask how they treated this subject,” said Mediakorset Galina Luchkina.
Evgeny Belyaev, political scientist, activist of the Council of Russians of the Republic of Belarus:
Putin's statement is not his decree. I think the Ministry of Education will be able to somehow bypass it. In areas where predominantly Bashkirs live, the Bashkir language will remain. In others it will become optional. This is where I see the solution to the problem. I don’t think this should be given any political coloring.
Vyacheslav Shaydullin, arvoy (religious figure among the Mari) of the Krasnokamsk region of the Republic of Belarus:
I believe that we have the opportunity to learn any language. It all depends on the family - whether they speak their native language or not. Any person can master three languages. These are native, Russian and English. Why don’t the residents of Bashkiria know Bashkir? Or Tatar. I think you just need the desire and “right direction” of the parents. No one should be forced to do anything. Especially for learning the language.
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Deputy of the State Assembly of the Kurultai of the Republic of BelarusRamil Bignovsays that Vladimir Putin “has finally put an end to the difficult issue of studying native languages in national schools.”
Everything is said clearly - we're talking about about voluntary language learning. I think that after his words it is unlikely that this issue will be raised again. There is no coercion,” the deputy concluded.
Bignov’s “colleague” in parliament Rimma Utyasheva has a slightly different point of view. According to her, journalists could have taken the president’s phrase somewhat out of context.
We have two state languages in our republic - Bashkir and Russian. No need to take it out of context. No one here forces anyone to study the Bashkir language. My grandson is studying Tatar language, and quite successfully. And he knows Bashkir perfectly. In our republic they speak 14 languages!
Why is the Bashkir language being attacked in Bashkortostan?! Where else can we learn it? I agree with the words of Vladimir Vladimirovich - all Russians should know the Russian language, the great language of Pushkin. My parents, I remember, sent me as a young girl to study in Chelyabinsk so that I could learn Russian. Mom told me that you must know Russian perfectly. I agree that authoritative people should deal with national issues. The only thing that raises a question for me is the Bashkir textbooks that are used for teaching.
Head of the Congress of Tatars of the Republic, deputy of the State Assembly of the Kurultai of the Republic of Belarus Zagir Khakimov in a conversation with Mediacorset, he said that the republican authorities need to create all the conditions so that people can learn their native language.
In the Russian Federation, Russian is the state language and the language of interethnic communication. Knowing Russian, you can communicate with a representative of any nationality in any of the republics. It is impossible not to take into account the peculiarities of national republics; the preservation of our native languages is very important for us. If people of a certain nationality do not know their native language, it has no future. Therefore, it is important to create all the conditions for its study.
Here we need to work more with parents, I think. As the head of the Congress of Tatars of the Republic of Belarus, I often travel around the regions and see how Tatar parents, for example, force their child not to learn their native language and choose English in his favor, because with it the child has more opportunities. Yes, schools are closing in Mari and Tatar villages. But for only one reason - there are no children in them! Soon my delegation and I are going to Kazan for the World Congress of Tatars to raise the issue of creating jobs in the countryside. We will deal with this issue.
Let us note that in recent months there have been quite serious debates in the republic about the study of the Bashkir language in schools. Supporters for and against took part in the debates and held discussions with the active involvement of the media. The majority of parents of children for whom Bashkir is not their native language argue that education in institutions is conducted on a “voluntary-compulsory” basis. We wrote about a case in a prestigious school, where the management, despite the desire of one of the parents to hold a meeting about learning the Bashkir language, threatened to terminate the training agreement with some of the parents who applied.
The prosecutor's office of the republic, after numerous checks, made a corresponding submission to Rustem Khamitov. So far the head has not made any specific decisions on this issue and has not commented on this issue. Let us note that our correspondent has not yet been able to reach representatives of the White House and find out their position on this matter, but we will monitor developments.
Subjects:A student from one of the schools in Ufa found himself in a difficult situation. Sixth-grader Vladislav Martins is being retained for the second year for refusing to study Bashkir. This decision was made by the pedagogical council. Formally, this subject is not compulsory and, despite good performance in other disciplines, the student is forced to go through the entire program again. The boy's parents are trying to challenge the teachers' actions, citing legal right, but unsuccessfully. Mikhail Chernov understood the difficulties and contradictions.
KOR: The report card of 6th-grader Vladislav Martins has four marks in history, mathematics and literature, and five marks in art and technology. C grades in Russian and biology. And only one bad mark in the Bashkir language. Not certified because I didn’t go.
VADIM MARTINS (VLADISLAV MARTINS' DAD): They just force this Bashkir language on us. We didn’t study it, I didn’t study it, my parents didn’t study it. We live a great life, we live in Ufa. We must take the Unified State Exam in Russian, not in Bashkir. Bashkir in general is not included in the certificate.
BOY: Russian and English are more important to me than Bashkir.
KOR: The parents insisted that their son not learn Bashkir. They notified the school director about this and took the child away from national language lessons for 2 years. For this, Vlad was left for the 2nd year. The parents received a notice from the school and responded by complaining to the prosecutor's office. They posted their appeal with reference to articles of the Constitution on the Internet. The Martins are no longer welcome at their home school.
WOMAN 1: I won’t have a conversation, I’ll just comment on the fact that we have no violations of the law.
COR: You can’t talk to your parents?
WOMAN 1: No, I can't.
KOR: It is necessary to sow the reasonable, the good, the eternal in Bashkir, teachers convince, but the parents of a 6th grader do not realize the importance of their native language, they say at school.
VALERIYA KINZYAGUL (TEACHER OF BASHKIR LANGUAGE AND LITERATURE): We live in the Republic of Bashkortostan. Bashkirs are considered the indigenous people of this republic; I believe that those who refuse to study the Bashkir state language make a big mistake.
KOR: The local Ministry of Education also supported native speech. The Bashkir language is the second state language in the republic, which means that everyone is obliged to study it, thus, without an exam in the national language, Vladislav Martins will not receive a certificate of secondary education.
ALFIS GAYAZOV (MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND SCIENCE OF THE REPUBLIC OF BASHKORTOSTAN): Today you can refuse, say, Bashkir, tomorrow you can give up chemistry there and so on, this does not happen.
ZOYE MARTINS (MOM OF VLADISLAV MARTINS): The Deputy Prime Minister of the Republic spoke on TV last night. She explained that our child should learn the Bashkir language in case he has a neighbor who does not understand Russian, so that he can communicate with him, or in case he marries a Bashkir woman.
KOR: To convince people to sit down with Bashkir textbooks, the methods they use are far from pedagogical, parents say. At school, Vlad is distinguished by exemplary behavior, but since he refused to learn the national language, they were summoned to the school council for the prevention of crime and to the commission on juvenile affairs.
In order not to go to the 6th grade a second time, the school offered a unique solution: to pass the Bashkir external exam, go to home engagement, or to a correction class, they verbally hinted that there was another option to move to another region. However, Vladislav’s parents do not yet plan to leave the republic.
Mikhail Chernov, Igor Akimov, Olesya Orgetkina, Oleg Brykin, NTV. Bashkiria.
In the Republic of Bashkiria, a struggle has unfolded against the imposition of the Bashkir language in Russian-speaking secondary schools. The indignant parents managed to achieve the first successes - the republican prosecutor's office at the end of May identified violations and promised to bring one of the directors to disciplinary liability.
Gymnasium 39 in Ufa is considered one of best schools Bashkiria. Even families from remote areas of the city seek to settle their offspring here. However, recently the gymnasium has become a real battlefield between supporters and opponents of studying the Bashkir language. Parents of students of this gymnasium have united in the Committee for the Protection of the Rights of Parents and Students of Educational Institutions with Russian as the Language of Instruction in Bashkiria and are trying to defend the right of their children not to study the Bashkir language without fail.
The problem has been brewing for a long time. Back in 2006, by order of the Ufa administration, compulsory Bashkir language lessons were introduced in all 160 educational institutions of the city. This was done within the framework of the national-regional component (NRC) general education, which at that time was under the jurisdiction of regional authorities. The initiators of the innovation were not embarrassed by the fact that according to the results of the 2002 All-Russian Census, 50% of Russians, 28% of Tatars and only 15% of Bashkirs lived in Ufa, a million-strong city.
However, by decision of the State Duma in 2007, references to the NRC disappeared from the federal law “On Education”, and all schools switched to a single federal state educational standard(FSES). According to this document, the main educational program is divided into two parts: the obligatory part and the part formed by the participants in educational relations, which include students, parents and teachers.
In addition to other subjects, the compulsory part of the program includes the Russian language, native (non-Russian) language and foreign languages. But the Federal State Educational Standard does not provide for compulsory teaching of a non-Russian language in the event that it is neither native nor foreign. In other words, those schoolchildren whose native language is Russian are not required by law to study the state languages of the republics where they live. Teaching local languages is a voluntary (variable) part of the educational program.
However, the authorities of many republics, including Bashkiria, continue to force Russian-speaking students to study national languages, thereby depriving parents of the right to choose. Instead of spending hours of the elective part of the curriculum on mathematics or English, schoolchildren are forced to study the complex grammar of Turkic and Finno-Ugric dialects, which is often beyond the capabilities of even language university students. Moreover, the knowledge gained from these lessons can hardly be useful in real life or when receiving higher education.
The lower classes are dissatisfied, the upper classes are inactive
Dissatisfaction with this situation is increasingly breaking out. As Galina Luchkina, a member of the Committee for the Protection of the Rights of Russian-Speaking People in Bashkiria, told the site’s correspondent, similar initiative groups also operate in Tatarstan, Buryatia and Komi. " About 5 years ago, we even held parallel rallies for the Russian language: they were in Kazan, and we were in Ufa, standing in single pickets for the right of Russian children to fully study their native language. In 2012, we, parents from Tatarstan, Bashkiria, Buryatia and Komi, were even invited to the State Duma, listened attentively and promised to help, but since then nothing has been done"- says Luchkina.
In May, another scandal on this topic erupted in Kazan. The new gymnasium, the opening of which the residents of the Azino district had long awaited, in fact turned out to be Tatar: for every four Tatar classes there will be one non-Tatar class, which clearly does not reflect National composition district. Many parents expressed their outrage that children with Tatar surnames are automatically enrolled in Tatar-language classes.
President of the Institute of National Strategy Mikhail Remizov in an interview the site called something similar language policy "an act of ethnic discrimination".
« It is important that there is essentially legal discrimination against the Russian population, which does not have the opportunity to choose to study Russian as their native language. Classroom hours are divided into the study of the state and native languages, the state language is Russian, and only Tatar or Bashkir is studied as a native language. It turns out that on the territory of these republics the Russian language does not have the status of a native language for the Russian population, explains the expert. - This issue has been raised more than once within the walls of the State Duma, even in the Committee on Interethnic Relations, and the president also gently touched upon it in the sense that it is necessary to ensure greater freedom of choice for parents. However, the problem is still there, and the problem has not been solved “says Mikhail Remizov.
According to the expert, attempts to improve the situation with the Russian language in the national republics are blocked at the very top.
« The former head of the Duma Committee on Nationalities Affairs, Gadzhimet Safaraliev, advocated taking measures that would solve the language problem. But now the committee is headed by Ildar Gilmutdinov, a representative of Tatarstan, who has a clear line on ethnic lobbying, so the chances of the Duma making such decisions have decreased “- emphasizes Remizov. By the way, Gilmutdinov himself refused to answer the site’s questions about the situation of the Russian language in the national republics of the Volga region.
Ufa gymnasium became a battlefield
While the authorities ignore the problem, local parents themselves have to fight for their rights. In Ufa, the Committee for the Protection of the Rights of Russian-Speaking Parents and Students of Bashkiria was headed by Natalya Budilova, mother of two children studying at the 39th Ufa gymnasium. Management educational institution for a long time did not allow her to choose another subject for her children instead of the Bashkir language.
Budilova complained about the violation of federal legislation to the prosecutor's office of Bashkortostan. And on May 25, an encouraging answer came from there (a copy of the document is available to the editorial website): in the 39th gymnasium, violations were identified in the preparation of curriculum, the guilty official was brought to disciplinary liability, and the situation was reported to the head of the republic.
The site's correspondent spoke with Natalya Budilova about what happened.
Natalya, how many hours per week are devoted to the Bashkir language in the curriculum of secondary schools with Russian as the language of instruction?
Usually two lessons, but there are schools where Bashkir is taught three or five lessons a week. In addition, for 10 years we have been studying such a subject as “Culture of Bashkortostan”. Only Bashkir poets and cultural figures pass there. This takes another lesson a week.
- At what point did you decide for yourself that your children would not learn the Bashkir language?
My daughter is now in the fifth grade, my son is in the seventh. In the fifth grade, when learning the Bashkir language began, my son began to come to me with a textbook on this subject and complain that he did not understand anything, although he was an excellent student and always studied very well. He did not understand either how to complete the task or how to do homework. I started asking other parents how they got by. It turned out that their children were being helped by relatives or acquaintances of the Bashkirs. Then I went to the teacher and said that for my son and other Russian-speaking children it was necessary to create a special group with other teaching methods designed for non-native speakers. But the teacher refused to cooperate and demanded that the children memorize long poems in Bashkir, of which they did not understand a word. And those who did not want to do this were simply given two marks.
- And you decided to fight for your rights?
At first, I just sat down at the computer, went to the website of the Ministry of Education of the Republic of Bashkortostan and was surprised to discover that the Bashkir language is not compulsory. They simply hid this information from us. Neither parent, including me, knew that we could legally give up this item in favor of another. And at the end of the school year parent meeting I explained to other parents that according to the basic curriculum, the Bashkir language is in the part formed by the participants in educational relations, and therefore we can include any other subject in this part. And the parents almost unanimously signed an application addressed to the director so that the Bashkir language would be replaced with Russian, mathematics or English.
- Probably only Russian parents supported you?
Ufa and others big cities Bashkiria are predominantly Russian, and many students at our 39th gymnasium come from Russian families. But representatives of other nationalities are not eager to learn the Bashkir language. For example, there are 36 children in our class. Of these, three are Bashkirs, the rest are Russians and Tatars. Only the parents of one Bashkir child expressed a desire to learn the Bashkir language. The rest wanted to change it to Russian or English. By the way, for those who want to fully master Bashkir, there are many schools with the Bashkir language of instruction, and it is not clear why it should be imposed on Russian-language schools.
Chauvinists take it out on children
Unfortunately, Natalya did not find understanding at school. Perhaps the director was under pressure from higher structures.
- Did the school try to take into account the wishes of the parents?
No, we did not wait for the director’s response, and then I wrote an appeal to the Ministry of Education of the Republic of Bashkortostan. And then in August, before the start of the next school year, director Kiekbaeva Irina Petrovna personally began calling every parent and saying that she could not exempt our class from studying the Bashkir language. A special parent meeting was held on this occasion, and only seven parents attended. Under pressure from the school administration and a representative of the Republican Education Committee, the parents agreed to study Bashkir, however, instead of the required two lessons, our class was allowed to limit ourselves to one lesson per week.
- But you decided not to give up?
I demanded that the school create an individual curriculum for my children. And then they called me to the director, called all the head teachers, shamed me, and wanted to take me in numbers.
The director shouted at me that I was a troublemaker, a destroyer. I am destroying everything that she has been building here for years, that I am inciting national hatred, that because of me a war will begin here like in Ukraine. She also asked why I hate Bashkirs. They promised to keep my children for the second year.
The photograph of my excellent-study daughter was taken from the honorary daughter. They threatened that they would open a whole case against me and send all my letters to the education committee so that they could deal with me there. In general, few people can withstand such pressure as I did.
After that, I filed a complaint with the prosecutor’s office, and at the end of the year I wrote a statement of claim to the court so that my children would be given the opportunity to study according to an individual curriculum next year.
The other day, the prosecutor's office ordered that violations in your gymnasium be corrected. Are you not going to stop there?
If our Ministry of Education continues to hide information from school principals about the rights of parents, and continues to misinform them, then the fight will have to be waged in every school. If the Ministry of Education fulfills its functions, then the need for our committee will disappear by itself. After all, all this time their rights were hidden from their parents, and those who found out about them were simply deceived and waged a long-lasting paper war.
Officials washed their hands of
The editors of the site turned to the Ministry of Education of the Republic of Bashkortostan for comments, but they rushed to shift responsibility for what was happening to the leadership of the educational institution. " In relation to the gymnasium, the Ministry of Education of the Republic of Belarus does not have the right to carry out control and supervisory activities“, explained the department’s press service.
According to officials, “for 2016-2017 academic year The Ministry did not approve approximate basic educational plans Accordingly, educational organizations independently developed and approved curricula.”
This information was confirmed by the director of the 39th gymnasium, Irina Kiekbaeva. In her response to the site’s request, she indicated: “according to current legislation, the school can build its educational trajectory. In our gymnasium, for all students without exception, the emphasis is on the humanitarian component and language learning. We study Russian, Bashkir, English, German, French and Chinese languages. When parents come to our school, they get acquainted with our regulatory framework, where our priorities are spelled out.”
However, Kiekbaeva did not answer why the curriculum in the 39th gymnasium is drawn up without taking into account the opinions of parents, which was revealed during the prosecutor's audit.
She also ignored the question about why, in a gymnasium with a language bias, this very bias must necessarily be towards the Bashkir language, and not English or French, as the students themselves and their parents would like. One can only guess how many more directors like Kiekbaeva continue to serve the interests of regional ethnocracies in Bashkiria and other national republics.
How are things going in your national republic or autonomy? Are children forced to learn the local language or, perhaps, on the contrary, are they deprived of the opportunity to master the second state language of a given territory? Write in the comments and to our email, if possible, leave information for feedback: INFOX editorial staff. RU plans to cover this topic further and, to the best of his ability, contribute to the normalization of the situation.
Every child who lives and studies in Bashkortostan is obliged to know and study the language of the land that is his home. Learning another language broadens a child’s horizons and allows him to gain a deeper understanding of culture. Native Land. Studying the Bashkir language (the second state language in Bashkortostan), along with Russian, creates in the child additional skills that will help him later in learning the following - foreign languages. Even if in Everyday life, for example, Russian children do not need the Bashkir language, but its knowledge is still necessary, as a basis and foundation, like knowledge of other sciences such as chemistry or physics, which not everyone will need later in life, but their study is also mandatory at school...
I read something like this as an argument for the defenders of the compulsory universal study of the Bashkir language in schools in Bashkortostan, when quite suddenly I discovered that since 2006 this subject has been compulsory.
To be honest, I was deeply amazed...
No, in my childhood we had “Bashkir” classes at school (it was “A” class), but there were always few children there and in general they (children from “A” class) were always somehow alienated. And in the general classes we had Bashkirs, and we always got along well, and there were no cultural barriers between us, and I admit that they knew how to speak Bashkir, but somehow we never got along with the “A” classes relationship…
Having started monitoring the Internet on this issue(since my daughter is interested in school in 2 years), I found out that at the moment there is a rebellion brewing among parents of schoolchildren against the study of the Bashkir language (after 11 years))) At the same time, adherents of the compulsory study of the Bashkir language (mainly from a certain “Bashkir Congress people") have also become more active in response: they call on Khamitov, as the President of Bashkiria, as well as the Minister of Education of Bashkiria, to protect titular language from attacks from parents who do not want their children to learn Bashkir.
By the way, neither the President, Head of the Republic of Bashkortostan Bashkir Khamitov, nor the Minister of Education Bashkir Shafikov did not live up to the hopes of the newly organized and not registered anywhere Congress of the Bashkir people(not to be confused with the World Kurultai of the Bashkirs), so out of despair they began to organize rallies and other protests, gladly supported by the local national Bashkir elite and some local media, under the motto: “Khamitova resign!”
I will not theorize here for long on the topic “are our children obligated/not obligated” to learn the Bashkir language (note: by the way, the prosecutor’s office doubts such “obligation”), but I will turn to a simple and always convenient method of logical and rational thinking.
So, does my child need the Bashkir language?
To begin with, from my personal life experience:
My wife and I are Russians (my ancestors are from the Ryazan province, my wife’s ancestors are from Ukraine), we have lived in Ufa all our lives. The majority of all our relatives, friends and acquaintances are Russian. At the same time, among them there are, of course... NON-Russians, but I don’t even know whether they are Bashkirs or Tatars, I don’t see any fundamental difference and I’ve never even been interested in their nationality, we don’t experience any difficulties in communication. Have there been times in my life when I needed the Bashkir language? No. That is, over the 35 years of my life, the need for such knowledge has never arisen.
OK. But, perhaps, in the future the situation will change, and knowledge of the language of the people, which according to statistics in the republic is less than 30%, and in my city less than 15%, will be so necessary for my absolutely Slavic girl that I will then bite my elbows for not giving her the opportunity study it in childhood? Hardly)))
Fine. But “defenders of the Bashkir language” say that since I live in Bashkortostan, then my children must study the Bashkir language out of respect for this land, which once, many centuries ago, completely belonged to the Bashkirs.
I doubt the harmony and steadfastness of this logical chain: if you live here, it means you must know the local language. For example, if you turn to the experience of the “stronghold of democracy”, then it will not even occur to anyone that Americans are obliged to study Indian language.
Bashkir - the second state? OK. But, for example, in another “stronghold of democracy, liberalism and tolerance” - Europe, there are many countries where several exist simultaneously state languages(for example, Switzerland, Austria or Belgium), and it does not occur to Europeans to somehow force their citizens to study them all. Moreover, according to general rule The most important thing to study is always considered mandatory common the language in a given area, and not at all the one that historically once was there many centuries ago. And that's logical and rational, isn't it?
Or, let’s say, the Republic of Crimea, where three official languages are at the same time - Russian, Ukrainian and Tatar. And what, do you think that Crimean children are forced to learn all 3 languages at the same time?!
And besides, our country is full of national republics, and if I move, my child will have to new language learn?! Nonsense…
Okay, let’s discard all these legal and moral-philosophical reflections on the topic “should/shouldn’t” and return exclusively to the plane practical necessity.
So, we have already found out that in everyday life it is difficult to imagine a situation where knowledge of the language of a national minority would be extremely necessary for my child. But maybe the adherents of the Bashkir language will have some other arguments?
“Knowing an extra language can’t hurt.”
You need it - you teach it, you don’t have to force it on everyone. There are no difficulties with additional study of the “native” language, including the Bashkir language, in schools, but why force a foreign language on everyone, and even obviously endangered language?!
The last phrase about a “dying language” immediately provokes the following argument from Bashkir activists: "That's it! Our language is dying out because it is being systematically squeezed out! And it needs to be preserved!”
Okay guys, I got you. But there is a simple question, the answer to which will clarify everything: why is the Bashkir language dying out? why do so many Bashkirs in the cities hardly know him? Yes because it is NOT NEEDED. It is dying out due to objective historical and evolutionary reasons. And that's why in my hometown half of these 15% of urban Bashkirs do not know more than a hundred words in Bashkir. Do you want the Bashkir language to be preserved? OK. What's the problem?! Teach their children for at least five hours a day, even until he’s blue in the face, but what does all of us - people of other nationalities - have to do with it?!
Note: moreover, as practice shows, if there is an opportunity to choose, the overwhelming majority of Bashkir parents in cities refuse in-depth study Bashkir, fully understanding the futility of this language and the futility of their children’s efforts to study it.
“Knowledge of the Bashkir language can be useful. Not everyone needs knowledge of chemistry or physics in life, but, nevertheless, everyone teaches them.”
And in this argument, the “adherents of the Bashkir” reveal their inadequacy in all its glory. This is how far removed from reality one must be in order to compare the need for a child to study fundamental basic sciences and a language that is known by approximately 1 million people, and even those live mainly in rural areas somewhere in the vast expanses of “middle zone” Russia near the old Ural Mountains. This is nonsense! These citizens are definitely not registered in a mental hospital?!
“If a child knows Bashkir, he will be able to communicate with Bashkirs in their native language”
Oh, wow! Fucking argument. The only problem is, I haven’t yet met Bashkirs who don’t know Russian, and, thank God, I don’t go to small remote villages. Then why the hell should I teach my child Bashkir?! So that some hypothetical Bashkir would be pleased that my child forced learn this language?! In other words, Bashkir nationalists artificially created a situation where tens and hundreds of thousands of children throughout the republic are forcibly taught an endangered language, so that they (these children), in some unrealistic ball-vacuum situation, would prefer to communicate in it instead of Russian?!
Note: by the way, in this regard, I always remember one story that happened to me once, about 10 years ago. Then I had the chance to live in Sibay (one of the most remote cities of Bashkiria) for about a week for work, and there one Russian girl indignantly told me how once, when she was in her senior year, the school director called her on some issue, and when she went into his office and said hello, he answered her irritably in Bashkir: “Get out and come in as you should!” In the sense that when you came in, you had to greet them exclusively in the Bashkir language. Yes, just like that...
But this, of course, is beside the point. I will continue...
The next, one of the key arguments from the idiot “defenders of the Bashkir language” sounds like this: “Why are Bashkir children obliged to learn the Russian language, but Russian children living in Bashkortostan should not learn the Bashkir language?!”
Well, first of all, based on the above. And secondly, because the Russian language is the language of interethnic communication in Russia, which is known by 99% of the population, and this is enough to ensure that learning this language, including for Bashkir children, would be practical necessity. But they may not teach. Just what will they do without the Russian language in Russia?!
In general, this whole story with the imposition of the Bashkir language and the hysteria of the Bashkir nationalists that broke out, when there was a threat of canceling this unhealthy “obligation”, all this reminded me of the events of my “perestroika” childhood, when at the dawn of the “parade of sovereignties” I remember, saw and heard then, slogans of this kind: “Russians - to Ryazan, Tatars - to Kazan!” In my opinion, it would be nice to take a closer look at all this local, suddenly active, nationalist riffraff.
Note: by the way, this is precisely why, at one time, when Putin strengthened his “ vertical of power", Khamitov was appointed to Bashkiria "from the outside" - so that he would dispel the established clanism of local nationalists in the republic.
Are Bashkirs and the Bashkir language being infringed upon? Wake up! From a third to half of civil servants are Bashkirs, although national population proportions are different. How many local state TV channels are there in Bashkiria? How many of them are in Bashkir? How long is it carried out? national Bashkir events? And they are carried out, by the way, on are common Republican money that goes to general budget of the republic, but are spent with a clear disproportionate bias in favor of the local national minority.
So, maybe the nationalists who have gone astray should shut up, otherwise it won’t just be about the imposition of the Bashkir language...
P.S. But as a conciliatory finale, I can fully admit the existence of some kind of mandatory course on studying, say, the most common 100 words or phrases in the Bashkir language with a final test. Well, for general understanding. But nothing more.
What do you think about this?
The boat is rocked by local Bashkir elites who dream of returning to the prosperity of the times of “independence”
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11 | 04/17/2017, 15:58 | Author: Not registered
4 | 04/17/2017, 11:52 | Author: Not registered
However, today's children are so loaded that they do not see childhood. Hence neuroses, misunderstandings with parents and suicides. Leave the children alone already. School is not an ITK. Make it a five-day week, and teach some subjects optionally on Saturday. Untie the nationals already. Question from the school. Relieve tension.
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I read somewhere that children under three years old should not (sorry for the “butterfly”) say “no”, but after three years they should begin to educate and teach. From my own experience, I know that children should not have a lot of free time, at least that’s how I raised my children. When they were little, of course, sometimes they whined and whined, but when they grew up, they learned - they are grateful to me! There is no need, as in Europe, to follow the lead of children - at school they must receive basic knowledge, and for this they must be fully loaded! There are things that must be learned by heart before the age of 15; if this is not done, the child will suffer from illiteracy for the rest of his life. Regarding discussions about teaching children the Tatar and Bashkir languages in the Republic of Tatarstan and the Republic of Belarus, and the alleged overexertion of children in this regard.
I think that the problem is far-fetched and not worth a damn. It’s just that someone is earning a dubious name from this (and maybe money, fulfilling someone’s foreign order and trying to incite ethnic hatred) and political points by posing as a fighter. And knowledge of the basics of a second language (Tatar or Bashkir) can somehow help those who will work in the healthcare system and in government agencies of the Republic of Tatarstan and the Republic of Belarus, or in companies associated with countries where languages with Turkic roots predominate - Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, Turkey.
I served in the army during the Soviet Union; representatives of all the union republics served in our unit; it seems that only Latvians were missing. And as a platoon commander, speaking Tatar and Bashkir, he could easily talk with all Turkic-speaking people, and I’ll tell you, not without pride, he enjoyed great respect from them!
And further. My niece studied in Germany and married a local German there, my daughter is already 9 years old - she is thoroughly taught three languages: German, Russian, English, she additionally knows Tatar and Spanish (my friend, you see, is Spanish-speaking!) And nothing, the child teaches , does not complain, because it is accepted there than a person more languages knows, the more educated he is and, naturally, he has a better chance of finding a decent job.
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Thank you!!!
that's right!
A Bashkir grandfather told us: at 3.5 years old his baby learned letters, at 4.5 he began to write independently on coated paper in circles, and by 5 years old he was reading books in a day. with a gold medal high school, but on the plane that collided in the German sky, he was not there, and then BSU and graduate school with honors!